S1E14. This week I had the pleasure to sit down with AF veteran and businesswoman, April Shprintz. April shares with us her journey into the broadcasting world in the Air Force and the subsequent path she has successfully navigated in business. She’s Founder of Driven Outcomes, a firm dedicated to cultivating the Generosity Culture and helping businesses achieve their goals.
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Aaron Spatz 00:05
I’m Aaron Spatz, and this is the Veterans Business Podcast. A podcast centered around the stories of US military veterans, and their adventures in the business world following their time in service. Its stories of challenges and obstacles. And then inside look at how veterans find their life’s work, their purpose, and their post military lives. This week, I had the pleasure to sit down with Air Force veteran and businesswoman. April Sprint’s April shares with us her journey into the broadcasting world in the Air Force. In the subsequent path, she has successfully navigated in business. She’s founder of driven outcomes, a firm dedicated to cultivating the generosity, culture, and helping businesses achieve their goals. We hear about a story that she had to get creative with.
April Shprintz 00:50
My news producer was like, but April, that was our story. I was like, Don’t worry, I still make it work
Aaron Spatz 00:56
for tenacity and confidence within herself to pursue a role.
April Shprintz 01:00
But also my goal was if these people just know me, don’t realize they do want me to be part of their company.
Aaron Spatz 01:08
And how you may not realize just how awesome you are. If
April Shprintz 01:12
you think of thought in your head, you may not know how amazing that is. Whereas what you have to share with the world. Everyone else is phenomenal.
Aaron Spatz 01:21
Let’s jump in. So April, thank you so much for taking time to be on the show today where I’m so excited to have you.
April Shprintz 01:35
Oh, it’s my pleasure. Thanks so much.
Aaron Spatz 01:37
Yeah, yeah. So really, I would just love to hear some little bit about your background, you have a very unique background given your military service. But I would love to hear kind of your story on how you found yourself into the military, and then share with us a bit about your time there.
April Shprintz 01:56
Absolutely. So I was probably least likely to join the military. Or any folks who’ve seen Private Benjamin with Goldie Hawn, I was that girl. And for me, it ended up being because I came from a family with such humble means, and college was going to be up to me. And I turned down local scholarships. And then just got into a situation where the tuition and board was way too much for me where I wanted to go to school, which was Boston University. And just to put it in perspective for you, even with the scholarship, they offered me the room and board and remaining tuition was still more than my mother had ever made in a year. So for me, I was like, Oh, I’ve got to find alternate options. So I happened to meet someone who had been in the military while I was paying to go to school trying to figure out what I was going to do. And when I found out about it, and from him, it wasn’t what I had expected. There was a very professional option, they had military broadcaster, so I thought, how hard could it be? And I was very fortunate that they did have a broadcasting program that offered me the opportunity to live overseas. And candidly, though I selfishly went into the military for my own goals, both education and career experience. It was one of the most wonderful things that has ever happened to me. And the way that it broaden my viewpoint of the world is something I wouldn’t trade for anything.
Aaron Spatz 03:31
That’s amazing. So yeah, share with us a little bit more about what you’re able to do, because it’s it’s not every day we speak with somebody that has the military experience of working in the broadcast space. So share this little bit about that.
April Shprintz 03:44
Sure. So it’s very interesting. So if you’ve ever seen the movie, Good Morning, Vietnam, that is is really true. We have folks that are on radio and television, it’s a little different today, because media has become so much more accessible for everyone. But when I was in the military, we were the only television shows that people overseas saw that were in the American language that were in English. So we gave them all of their information from a military perspective, but also their information about the US and the world. And an added benefit was we were away for the local communities, be it in in Europe or Asia or anywhere else. Learn about the United States. So there was that shadow benefit as well. And it was amazing work. I got to meet some very amazing military and government leaders and celebrities that did things with the military. It was one of those jobs where I was always pinching myself and wondering if they would figure out that I would definitely do it for free. Wow.
Aaron Spatz 04:46
What was one of the most interesting times that you got to spend with somebody like I’m sure you got to see all sorts of different people from all walks of life, but like what was one of your favorites
April Shprintz 04:59
so One of my favorite things, and I got to do some amazing stories, I got to take a flight from Texas all the way to Okinawa with a team of doctors and nurses that were going to fly a baby back on an ECMO machine, which it’s an abbreviation for really long term, but basically, it pumps their heart and breathes their lungs for them. And it’s extraordinary the kind of medical care that the military provides to their military members that most anyone who’s in the military couldn’t afford in the civilian sector, you just couldn’t have that done. So that was really amazing to be a part of, to literally get on a flight, fly 17 hours to get that baby and bring them to the best hospital in the world, for that family. And for me, now, my news producer may have felt differently. But for me that ended amazingly, because by the time we got to Okinawa, the baby was doing well enough. We didn’t need to take him back. And I thought that was fantastic. So my news producer was like, but April, that was our story. I was like, Don’t worry, I can still make it work.
Aaron Spatz 06:05
That’s awesome. That’s very cool. Well, then it share with us about, you know, so you did looks like about six to seven years in the Air Force. So tell us a little bit about your decision to leave and a little bit about where you first landed, post Air Force?
April Shprintz 06:24
Oh, absolutely. So my decision to leave was really based on I went in the military to get my degree, which I was able to do while I was in, by going to school when I wasn’t working. And then in my career field, it was very unique in that there were only certain things that you could do. And one of the things that was really the pinnacle of your career was being able to anchor and executive produce Air Force television news, which was a 30 minute long news program that we did. And it was an amazing program. And I was exceptionally fortunate, I got to do it very, very early in my career, which was rare, you were normally in the military much longer before you got to have that role. And once I had had it, I felt like I had done most everything I wanted to do other than I would have loved to have run a television station overseas. But I was 25 years old. And basically the answer was you’re too young, you need to just continue doing this for three or four years. And then we’ll give you another opportunity when you’re older and more experienced. And for me, growth was so important, doing the same thing for five years felt like death. So I was like, I love this, but no, I think I’m gonna leave. So I was able to get out of the military shortly thereafter. And where I landed initially, because I had no preparation for my transition, because I happened to just be in a period where they were doing a draw down. So you could raise your hand and get out of the military fairly quickly, they you could stay for up to six months, which Aaron, that would have been the right thing to do. I’ll take six months, I’ll transition I’ll find a new role, mate, I was like, I’m going to give the Air Force Two Weeks Notice. So I got out two weeks after I said, because that’s what I had remembered. For my time in the civilian world. I was like two weeks this plenty of time to find a role. Oh, that’s great. Oh, I have learned the most in my life from mistakes. And that was arguably a mistake. But I learned a lot. And I’m really thankful for it. But got out of the military and found out that the things that I did, having a degree doing amazing things in the military just absolutely did not translate to roles in the regular business world. And when you transition as a military person, and you plan it out better than I did, you have transition assistance programs, you have things that help you but candidly having a lot of friends who who have recently retired, even that doesn’t translate it well enough, it can be difficult to make that transition. It’s why one of my personal things that I do is any veteran that reaches out to me, whether I know them or not, I’m going to help them. Do those translations leverage the contacts they have that they’re not thinking about. Because if someone knows you it’s much easier for them to vouch for you and then you can do that translation to for me because I didn’t have a network. I didn’t have anyone I knew outside of the military. I went to temporary agencies and just took temporary jobs swallowed my pride a little bit because I was like I have a degree I should you know have a role in some type of management. But I actually took executive assistant roles at various companies. So that one I could earn enough money to help support at the time I had a family I was married at the time, so I could help support financial but also my goal was if these people just know me, don’t realize they do want me to be part of their company. And so I launched a little bit of a media campaign slash assault on leadership at the company that I liked the best. And that’s how I got hired. Wow.
Aaron Spatz 10:21
So you’re just being so you’re just being really, really sly, and really sneaky to, to get things all lined up. But I mean, that just sounds like you’re just doing plenty of study and knew what you want. I wasn’t,
April Shprintz 10:33
I wasn’t lie are sneaky about it at all. I was like a bullet and kind of stuff. Because I applied for human resources. And again, my resume just didn’t translate. I had all the skills they needed, but it wasn’t written the right way. And so HR said, you know, you’re not qualified for this role. You know, yes, you have a degree, but you’re a new thinker, and you want to go work in marketing. And it just, it doesn’t make any sense. And since HR said, No, I was at the time working for the head of finance. And I said, Hey, do you know the head of marketing? And he said, Yes. Could you get me a lunch?
Aaron Spatz 11:16
Yeah. You know, and, yeah, sorry, go ahead. Oh, no, no, go ahead. No, I was just gonna say that’s, I mean, that that’s often how, how these opportunities come about is being smart enough to realize, you know, sometimes I just need to go to that person. And just get, just get to know them. And they get to know you and realize what you have to offer. And it becomes a no brainer.
April Shprintz 11:44
Absolutely. And another thing that I learned is by being there, that really gave me the opportunity. And this later became the premise for my own company, it gave me the opportunity to offer value to do work that was outside of the scope of this position they temporarily hired me for. And by doing that, investing my time and giving them value they weren’t even paying for, it gave them the opportunity to start to see me in a different light. And I really believe that’s how I ended up getting hired.
Aaron Spatz 12:16
Now, talk about that change in perspective. So what what do you feel that it was, that helped them see you in a different light.
April Shprintz 12:27
So they knew that I had that military background, and they knew that I had a degree and I was doing this position temporarily, and the role that I had left me extra time, if you will. So I was constantly volunteering for things that were outside of the scope of what they had hired me to do, because I was in this temporary position for two or three months. So I had a good amount of time to make an impression on people. So I was just constantly trying to find ways to add value to do more than they expected to show other things that I could do, instead of how some people can tend to say, Oh, well, that’s not my job, or I’m not getting paid for that. For me, it was oh, let me show you how many things I can do outside of the scope of this. So that you might see how I fit into your organization in a different way than how you’re seeing it today.
Aaron Spatz 13:22
And that’s a great way to just show them your work ethic, it gives them some insight into your character also. So not just the desire to go take care of any number of different problems and areas that you’ve identified as opportunities. But they also see like, wow, she’s a go getter. She’s gonna go take care of issues, we don’t have to rewrite her job description every 30 days, you know, she’s she’s gonna go take care of good take care of business.
April Shprintz 13:53
Absolutely. And it’s funny, you use the word go getter, I would change that a little bit to a go giver. And that’s basically because I read a book recently that just really, really, it made an impression on me, called the Go Giver. And that was where it came from. So that book is written by Bob Berg and John David Mann. And what’s amazing about it is it really talks about helping and adding value without worrying about what happens from that. So what resonated with me so much when I read this book, which has been out for over a decade, I can’t believe I only just now had it recommended to me and I think you were one of the people that recommended it. Five people recommended it to me and you put me over the edge. You were the reason I went and downloaded it. I said you know what, this keeps showing up for a reason. What they teach and also what I was innately doing is I’m just going to help everyone and then I’m just going to assume that everything else will work out. So when I was volunteering and doing more and going outside of what was considered The role they hired me for the reward in itself was that I wasn’t bored, quite candidly, because the role that they’d hired me for was less than I needed to keep me engaged and intrigued. So it helped me and it helped them. And then it ended up becoming I stayed at that company, I got hired in marketing, and then sales and operations. I stayed there for almost a decade. Wow.
Aaron Spatz 15:24
No, and, and back to that book to it. It’s funny, because I had similar experiences that I couldn’t believe it had been out for so long. And now, all of a sudden, because I think I read it for the first time, probably three or four months ago. And, and I’m like, Where the heck have I been? Because this thing’s been out for quite some time. So I’m glad. I’m glad I’m glad more words getting out because I, what I enjoyed about it, and my gosh, we’re like, we’re wrapping this guy’s book. And we don’t I don’t even know. But and this isn’t sponsored by this guy. For anybody. Wondering,
April Shprintz 16:02
two gentlemen. And what is so interesting, I want to just mention this, as I do not know either one of the gentlemen. However, when I put out on social media, how much this book had changed my perspective, and how much it resonated with me. The author’s both had a conversation with people who responded. So here’s the book that’s been out, I think it came out in 2007, maybe 2008. So here’s a book that’s been out at least 12 years. And they’ve written many more books since then. And they still took the time to talk with every single person that was touched by that book. So they live it, they don’t just, they didn’t just write it. And love that I was just so impressed with that.
Aaron Spatz 16:44
I saw that too. And I thought that was pretty remarkable. And it kind of makes me want to shift gears ever so slightly, and I don’t think I’ve ever talked about this on a on a show previously, but given your background, and given my background, you know that that it all goes back to building a legitimate community, and in engaging in dialogue. And so you and I both are pretty avid users of LinkedIn, and social media, we spend a lot of time engaging with people. And I’ve also seen the flip side of that, where people get so obsessed with the numbers and growing a following, and the quality is not there. And for me, I get so energized and excited. One to get to meet some amazing people. In fact, that’s how you and I met. And then to getting to foster, like some really cool conversations, making really awesome introductions. I mean, I’ve lined up all sorts of people and connected them with, with people that I knew could be a view. So what’s been, but the question I guess I’m trying to ask is, like, what is your view on that? Like, like, what’s been your experience with AI? Well,
April Shprintz 18:00
yeah, here’s what I love. I think I think I’ve got your question. What I loved about social media and communities like LinkedIn, and others is for me, I want to help as many people as possible. And in some cases, those are going to be clients, those are going to be folks that hire me. But in a lot of cases, there are going to be people who need my help the most, who are the least likely to be able to invest in anyone, whether it’s me or someone else at the time, they need the help. So the way that I see these communities, in addition to the ability to meet great people like you, Aaron, is, this is a platform that I can leverage to expand the amount of people I’m able to help on any given day, from just one person. But that idea, or that quote, that someone made when they were talking to me, or a video that I shot about a business could exponentially help other folks. And so to me, that’s the first thing that drew me to the platforms themselves. Then, I was surprised and excited about the community of people. So I went there to teach and realize that I did just as much learning as I did teaching, which is what I absolutely love about it.
Aaron Spatz 19:19
Yeah, it’s a phenomenal place to be and I continually encourage people to engage and, and to get involved because it’s, it’s not scary. And it’s a it’s a great opportunity to meet people that you would otherwise never have the opportunity to meet. Shifting gears, shifting gears slightly here. So you’ve you’ve been on the air force now for a number of years, you’ve had a career and now you’re you’re running your company driven outcomes. What What have been some pivotal moments in your career in your journey. Knee that, from the outside may have looked like a tremendous setback or difficulty. But how did you bounce through or bounce back out of those situations and in leverage it.
April Shprintz 20:13
So one of the things that was really interesting to me is when I got out of the service, and I went into the corporate world, I had this tremendous feeling that I was behind everyone. Because I had spent nearly seven years in a totally different organization. And a lot of the things that I had achieved, if you will, if you will, or accolades, or even skills really didn’t necessarily translate. So I almost felt like in a way, I was starting at square one. And I see this with a lot of people, when they may be making a an industry shift or a role shift, it feels like a lateral move, and they’re like, oh, gosh, I’ll be behind. And it’s such a misnomer, because you’re not behind anything, all of those experiences layer on top of each other, and make you better and better at other things. So for example, yes, I may have not gone straight into the corporate world right after college, like many folks did. So I was a few years behind the experiences they had my unique experience in the military, interviewing high level officials gave me this feeling that I could absolutely go up and talk to the CEO of our company, or absolutely go talk to the C suite of another company, to sell them something. So the skills that I gained, I was able to leverage and they put me on the fast track in that new role. So what seemed at first like it was a bad thing was actually a huge blessing I just didn’t recognize yet.
Aaron Spatz 21:44
Wow. So what was that something that you came into knowing? Like, straight straight out of the Air Force? Or did that come in the midst of some turmoil and a little bit of questioning and processing? Once you got in? Like, what went? What? What led you to that discovery?
April Shprintz 22:03
Oh, neither. I would like to say that I either knew it going into it, or I knew it as I was struggling through. I figured it out later, after I was like, wow, you know, my career has taken this amazing trajectory, how did that happen? So when you’re in it, and I say this for the people that might be in it, that might be in the the worrying that they’re not moving as fast in their career as they want to, or that they don’t have everything they need at this point to do these ideal things, you’re generally in a much better place than you even recognize that you are. And anyone who can have the power of that positive mindset of trusting that things are happening in the perfect time for them. And they’re going to be able to do amazing things. They will be leaps and bounds ahead of other people. For me, personally, I had the realization years after it happened, I would have loved to have known before. But I’m happy with that. I saw it later. And what a benefit it was so that I could share it with other people.
Aaron Spatz 23:05
What caused you to realize it like what what moment was that when you were doing some self reflection? Like, how did that come to you?
April Shprintz 23:13
I think it was a moment where I was talking with someone who had mentored me early on in my career. And they and I had lots of amazing mentors. I was very lucky that way. But they had made the comment that I had shotgunned past them. And they’re like, it’s so amazing. I’m really proud of you. And they were one of those fantastic people that they had no bad feelings about the fact that it happened, they just wanted to point out to me, Look what you did. And when they did, it made me reflect on how I felt when they were early on mentoring me. And how I never would have thought that that would have happened. And oh, you know, look at all of the different unique skill sets you had to help you that you may not have recognized at the time, we were never behind you were doing everything in the perfect time for you. And that’s what I tell anybody who’s who’s younger and wants to be counseled on their career or military folks that are making a transition and having that similar feeling of, oh, gosh, I feel like I’m starting from ground zero. You’re never starting from ground zero because you now have this wealth of experience behind you. That’s going to make everything you undertake from this point forward. Go lightning fast.
Aaron Spatz 24:33
Thanks for sharing that perspective. I love that. So take us on the journey of how you got to launching your own firm and share this little bit about that process.
April Shprintz 24:47
Sure. So I was part of an amazing company in the financial industry. I was recruited there from the company I was talking about earlier. And I was with them for two and a half years during a period of tremendous growth and And I had a lot of fun, I was very much incented, because there were no earning cap, the more that you could sell and help people with this product, the better you were compensated. So I was in this really unique position where I had made more money that I never expected to make. And I was so loving helping people in this particular industry with this service and product that I was selling. But at the same time, there was this nagging feeling of I feel like I should be doing more. And what I found was I started mentoring other people in the organization, in in their selling in their interacting with clients. And when someone else had a big win, I was way more excited than I was about my own wins. And it was really interestingly, foreshadowing where I would go, because I was getting more out of helping others than I was having any success on my own. And so there were some some changes in the company itself, it was growing, there were going to be some changes in management and things like that. All good things, but it just seemed like a good time for me to go out on my own, and help people in a different and more broad way. So instead of just helping the clients that I could interact with in this one industry in this one vertical, I wanted to go help anyone that would let me help them. And it was just a great time for me to do that.
Aaron Spatz 26:29
Wow. Talk to us a little bit more than so what, what, what all does driven outcomes do.
April Shprintz 26:36
So I help people accelerate their businesses, whether they be small to medium sized businesses, sometimes entrepreneurs, and it takes a bunch of different shapes. So for example, I have turned around a company before that was losing $40,000 a month, and got them to profitability. And then very shortly thereafter, they were approached to sell their company in a really strategic acquisition, and we’re able to make a great profit on that company. So something is involved is that to helping people set up and scale their company, when, let’s say they’re at two to 10 million a year in revenue, and they really want to get to 25 million. And a lot of times, that’ll be a small business entrepreneur that’s just exceptionally talented. They don’t really know how they got it to 10 million candidly, right. They, they loved it, they just did what they loved. And now they’re like, Oh, wow. So I probably need processes and procedures, and I need to do something so that this business doesn’t need me in order to run, if that makes sense. So I’ll help with that as well. And then the last thing I do, which is really interesting, and I think pretty rare, is something that I call CEO on the go for serial entrepreneurs, who are about to start a new endeavor, but they can’t leave their current endeavor, I can step in and run someone’s company for them. And in some cases, I’ve done it when a CEO, like I mentioned before, when the company needs them to run, I can step in and run the company for them if they want to take a sabbatical or an extended vacation. And that can be really fun.
Aaron Spatz 28:17
Oh, that’s cool. That’s great. Well, thanks. Thanks for sharing some of that. What advice would you have for veterans? And I know we covered this a little bit, but I’d love to get a little bit more perspective from you. So for those that may be feeling they’re floundering and frustrated, just with the direction that their careers are headed right now. And what well, what advice do you have for people that are just looking to get back on track with, with where they are?
April Shprintz 28:45
The biggest piece of advice that I could give to veterans or anyone is that sometimes we don’t see our own genius and our own magic, because we are ourselves, right? So if you think a thought in your head, you may not know how amazing that is. Whereas what you have to share with the world, to everyone else is phenomenal. So I would suggest that you talk to people that you admire and trust and ask them for their thoughts on you and your career and what they might do. And I give the same advice to entrepreneurs talk to other entrepreneurs that you like and admire about where you think you should go what you think you should do, because the benefit is you’re going to be talking to people in different industries, you’re going to be talking to people with different experiences, and they may come up with an out of the box stop for you on your career on your business that would never have occurred to you. And they can be such a vital source of not only information you don’t know, but encouragement because sometimes you don’t know how incredibly special you are. Whether you’re an individual contributor in a company, or someone who owns a business. It’s someone Showing you how they see you that can sometimes really help you understand your true value.
Aaron Spatz 30:07
That goes back to I think, sometimes it’s, it’s so hard to really see yourself outside of yourself. Like it’s it to you, it’s obvious, but to exactly your point, there’s others in your life that can speak into your gifts and your talents and be able to point things out and say, you know, like, that may be obvious to you. But that’s actually a gift. Like, that’s actually something that not everybody else has. And that that’s, that’s a worthy of diving into and checking out. So
April Shprintz 30:39
absolutely. And the whole premise and what I teach in helping businesses become successful, the generosity, culture is all about investing in and giving value to your employees, your clients in your community. And this is where community comes in. Because that investment can be volunteering at a local nonprofit and making the world better. Or that community can be giving that information and investing in your friend or colleague, and telling them what all they have to offer the world and helping them take that next scary step to expand their horizons.
Aaron Spatz 31:20
Speak to the female veterans in the audience. And what’s a common myth about female veterans day that you think is just simply a lie as it relates to business?
April Shprintz 31:36
Honestly, can’t think of one because there there is certainly the thought that they are tough, and they can do anything because they were in the service. But I don’t think that’s a myth. I think that’s very true, though. I have the greatest respect for any female that served in the military. But I have the greatest respect for any person who served in the military. And my perspective on this, Aaron is probably pretty unique. I am all about empowering women, female lead businesses and all of those things. I think sometimes the best way that we can empower women and female veterans is to just consider them a veteran and not add that other tag to it. Because the empowerment is in giving them the same recognition and the same respect as any other veteran.
Aaron Spatz 32:29
Sure. That’s a great perspective. Are there any resources that have really helped you on your journey that you’d like to share?
April Shprintz 32:39
Oh, wow, there’s so many so narrow that down for me a little bit resources? In what way?
Aaron Spatz 32:45
Yeah. So like, as it relates to just focusing on your your skills and your your giftings? Like, how are you able to identify what what it is that you do very well? And how did you know that that was something that you wanted to go pursue?
April Shprintz 33:03
That’s a great question for me. I love to read, I love to learn, take classes, etc. But nothing has been as valuable as actual people, actual mentors, people that you look up to, and you want to be like, and asking them for their advice and their thoughts and their input. And I’ll tell you, that people can be afraid to ask someone for their advice for their help, or just reaching out to them to learn from them. I’ve never turned someone down in my entire life that asked for my advice or help. And on the flip side, I’ve never had someone turn me down. So what I would encourage people to do is to reach out to those folks that you admire. And ask them, how they might accomplish some of the things that you’re looking to accomplish. Because those nuggets of hard earned, life lived wisdom are the most powerful things that I’ve ever experienced.
Aaron Spatz 34:05
One thing I’ve noticed is, community is so important. And mentorship is so important. And for a lot of veterans, it can just be a matter of just reaching out. And so many may be it, they may have questions, or they may have some struggles, or they may just need some clarification on things. And it really is just a is a question away. And one thing that I’ve noticed and I would love your perspective on this, but the veterans community in general has just been incredibly receiving and warm and welcoming. Probably more than I envisioned when I got out of the military, just because you just think that when you’re in that’s that’s as good as it gets. And I’ve been very impressed with how well the community as a whole does it bring each other together?
April Shprintz 34:59
I completely I agree with you. I think it’s an amazing community. And it’s interesting because I do put that I am a veteran on a lot of different things that I do and things that I do for social media, not for the recognition of being a veteran, because I feel like the honor was mine, that I got the opportunity to serve. But because I want folks to know that are other veterans, that I would automatically help you. Because I think it’s like being in any other respected organization, you have respect for someone simply because they also served. And of course, you would help them. And I feel like everyone I’ve ever encountered in the military community was the same way.
Aaron Spatz 35:41
Totally agree with that, April. I appreciate that the perspective there also. And I also just want to thank you for taking time out of your day and just answering these questions. Just just having some awesome dialogue and conversation. I’ve really enjoyed hearing your perspective and your angle on things.
April Shprintz 36:02
Thank you. Like I said, the pleasure has been mine.
Aaron Spatz 36:09
What a great discussion. I loved her perspective regarding mentors and working the hustle is clear. She has a heart for others and has a tenacious work ethic, you can definitely get a strong sense of her strong personality, from our time in the Air Force, to pursuing job opportunities to now leading her own firm. There are so many takeaways, but I would encourage you to reflect on your greatest talents and strengths. What may be obvious to you may not be obvious to others study and acknowledge that. As always, thank you so much for listening. I’m happy to announce that season two is in production now. And season one will be officially wrapped in the next few weeks. We have additional exciting episodes remaining that you’re going to absolutely love. Season two will feature video as well that you can catch on youtube if you’d like. Connect with me, Aaron Spatz on social media, I’m on all major platforms and would love to connect with you. I also have my own podcast in production that takes a lot of my talks and interactions with others. So check that out as well. Just do a search for my name and you’ll find it. I once again want to thank you so much for tuning in. producing this for you is a sincere honor and joy. I love hearing people’s stories and sharing them with you send any feedback you have to me at podcast at Bold media.us Thanks again so much. We’ll see you next week.