S1E13. I had the pleasure this week to speak with Chaunte Hall, an Air Force veteran and accomplished businesswoman making a tremendous impact in the military community. Chaunte opens up about her personal life while also sharing some key insights regarding having foresight for your career, and how volunteering is the superpower to giving back. Chaunte is the CEO of Centurion Military Alliance.
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Chaunte Hall 00:00
When we get out of the military, if we don’t foresee that pathway that we’re used to seeing, we could easily give up hope and a level of pursuance, because we don’t know what to pursue.
Aaron Spatz 00:17
You were listening to America’s entrepreneur, the podcast designed to educate, entertain, and inspire you in your personal professional journey. I’m your host, Aaron Spatz. And on the podcast, I interview entrepreneurs, industry experts, and other high achievers that detail their personal and professional journeys and business. My goal is to glean their experiences into actionable insights that you can apply to your own journey. If you’re new to the show. We’ve spoken with successful entrepreneurs, Grammy Award winning artists, best selling authors, chief executives, and other fascinating minds with unique experiences. We’ve covered topics such as how to achieve breakthrough and business, growing startups, effective leadership techniques, and much more. If you strive for continuous self improvement, and enjoy fascinating and insightful conversation, if the subscribe button, you’ll love it here at America’s entrepreneur. Well, Shantay, thank you so much for agreeing to be a guest on the show. I’m excited that you’re here.
Chaunte Hall 01:19
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having me.
Aaron Spatz 01:23
I think the best place to start would be share with us some of your background, how you found yourself into the military. And you give us a little bit of a picture of what you did while you’re in
Chaunte Hall 01:33
it. So my entire family served in the military. So from grandparents, aunts, uncles, to to both of my parents being raised in the military culture in the military environment, that that definitely led me to join. Plus my father was my recruiter, and he kind of made me great. Yes, he was actually my recruiter. Wow. Yeah. And so it’s always been, you know, there’s there’s many jokes to that, but we won’t get into all that. But when I joined the military, prior September 11, my goal was to join just to serve our great nation, and I definitely believed in service. And, and then to get my degree, so I was that young airman that joined my father told me to go the logistics route, because I would have time to actually go to school. And then I, you know, so for years, I thought I’d have my degree I’d get out, I would have kind of followed in my family’s footsteps. But life happens. And there are always things that kind of get in the way. And so as a young airman, I was enrolled in school full time, but then September 11 happened, and September 11, definitely changed, you know, the Air Force culture. And so I went through some trials and tribulations with with school. And and back then there, there wasn’t a lot in place to ensure that the military was being taken care of when it when it came to education, so forth. For example, after September 11, the school the base was shut down for a week. Yeah, and none of the airmen could leave. You know, we all had separate posts where we were doing security details. And I went, I went back to school the following week, and had the makeup work that I had with me, and then was asking to make up the other coursework. I was actually told no. Yeah, well, and so I was still upset and disgruntled, you know, I was 19 years old, grad, I actually quit school, I dropped out right there and took the withdrawals, you know, the w’s. And I laugh. And so considering that I still wanted my education, when that calm down, I tried various other platforms of enrolling in a different college to they had just come out with videos. And I was doing Liberty videos on a deployment trying to teach myself math to when you remember when Phoenix came out with was kind of that first online school platform. And it was, it was definitely back then it was difficult to navigate through the process.
Aaron Spatz 04:31
Wow, I can’t imagine what that what that was like, especially in the post 911 world. I mean, we’re, how did that really like alter your trajectory in terms of like what you were trying to accomplish? Were you able to still get done what you’re wanting to get done during that time? Or to just to continue to put it off?
Chaunte Hall 04:50
Well, I mean, yeah, it definitely put off a lot and that that was that was the situation. I so I think personally being raised In the military environment, and living overseas, we were actually my father was stationed in Japan. And my mom homeschooled us at the time, that when that community college, when that happened to me and I got out of school, and then I ended up deciding to go on a video route for a while, I think that I was able to transition successfully kind of within each arena, because I was used to it, I had grown up that way. But you take the average, normal, everyday person who at the time may have been, you know, they had completed high school, or they may have had some community college, and they were used to that platform. And then to try to switch and well, here’s years videos to learn from or now here’s, you know, the newest digital Angel from The University of Phoenix and try to navigate through this, that that I believe could have definitely hindered a lot of people from even trying to go to school. So that’s what made made my education kind of it took far longer than I ever thought it would have to accomplish my degrees. But I eventually ended up accomplishing the goals that I had. But I stayed in the military far longer. So I was active duty for 10 years, and I was I switched to the reserves, and I was reservists for five.
Aaron Spatz 06:25
Okay. Yeah. So then submit, maybe that contributed a little bit to your to a smooth transition? I mean, what what did the weather the transition process look like for you?
Chaunte Hall 06:36
No, you know, I think I don’t think that have credentials, helps for a smoother transition. I think that it’s one’s ability to articulate clearly what they want to do. And understanding that there are job pathways, there are career pathways in the civilian sector, just like they are in the military. And so I would say the one smart move that I made when I got out, and I ended up choosing to get out to actually finish my bachelor’s degree at the time. Okay. So the one smart move that I made was, I did get out from active duty, and the very next day I was in the Reserves. And so I think, because I still was able to touch the military community. It wasn’t I didn’t feel as alone. But coming from that military background, had I not had done that, I definitely would have had a much harder time. Yeah. Another benefit that I had was I had my family. And so I had support structure. When after my last deployment with the with the army. My family was very supportive and said, Hey, what do you want to do if you could do anything, and I shared with them how I wanted to open a gym. So they let me move back home to San Antonio, Texas with them while I started pursuing, not only finishing my degree, a bachelor’s in business at the time, but also opening my gym, to realizing that as passionate as I was about fitness, I was not passionate to answering to every single person who walked through the door, aka my clientele. Wow, oh, but because because of pathway, and my father was in education, he he ensured that my educational goals were always aligned with the Bureau of Labor Statistics and and all the data and research that’s out there. And that’s one thing that that helped. And so, for me, personally, I was able to, you know, sell that gym, I was a director at the YMCA, because I had a bachelor’s in business, the personal training, certifications, and licensures help support the backing of working for, you know, a health and wellness institution. But it’s the degree that ensures that you can get into the door. And so I do take education very seriously. Immediately, when the GI Bill came out and said, We will support online school. I thought, Well, now’s a perfect time to get my master’s degree. And I was going to get a master’s in Christian studies. But my father said, and he loves Jesus, but my father said, The hell you are. And he said, you know, you have to think about the future and what would you do with that? And I said, Well, I teach Sunday school. He goes exactly you teach Sunday school, you’re already teaching Sunday school, the you don’t need to go get a degree in that. You need to look at what’s going on in the world. And you should pursue an MPA with an emphasis in government and policy. And I thought, why not foreseeing the past that I’m now on and so, you know, I’m a firm believer that your educational pathway should, you know, enhance the direction of you know, actually anomic stability and what’s going on, on a global scale to ensure relevancy?
Aaron Spatz 10:06
That’s good. I, would you mind expanding on that a little bit more? Because that I mean, that was a great, that’s a great line right there. So, share this little bit more about what what all that means and how you think that would best apply to those that may that may be listening to this.
Chaunte Hall 10:21
You know, there’s a reason why this is the best way that that I could put it. When you join the military, you’re given a list of jobs that you can walk into, I think I’m not sure about the Marines. Okay, I’m just teasing you.
Aaron Spatz 10:38
Chaunte Hall 10:41
So you’re, you’re given a list of jobs. And then and you take whatever that is, and the military strategically has done this. They take you, they make sure you have all the training, the certifications, the licensures. And in my, you know, bias opinion, we train the best of the best. There’s a reason why we are a global force, there’s a reason why we have the platform that we do, we are the strongest military force in the entire world. Because we train, we prepare, we educate. And so as you’re looking at the civilian sector, and understanding that even the military culture within itself has these career pathways, and these needs for these certain positions, well, so does the civilian sector. And, and so a lot of times, you know, you and I were laughing earlier, because we hear the parents out there, and what is going to set you apart from being a parent. And that’s where I look at, there are certain jobs that are needed period. This is the reason why the colleges and the certifications in the licensures why they have degrees that they do, why they have those certs, why they have those, you know, HVAC, plumbing, all the trades. It’s something that we’ve really gotten away from, and today alone in the state of Texas, since you know, we’re both in Texas, right? If you go to the Texas Workforce Commission, you’ll see the top 10 jobs right now that are available, and eight of them are in the trade. Wow. Eight, yeah, that’s crazy. And, and so so take our level of business acumen and say, okay, Shantay, that’s great that you have an MPA with an emphasis in government policy, you’re an executive coach, your human resource professional, and you’re finishing a doctorate, what does that mean, for my company. And that might not mean anything for your company. But that Take That level of experience and exposure, and pair that now with an HVAC certification, and I’m able to come in, and now I get not only the business acumen, but I also understand that trade and that skill, and what’s required of other workers that possibly I could be looking to bring in and to expand upon the business.
Aaron Spatz 12:56
Did, that’s a great perspective, because there’s been this, this culture, and you’re totally fine, if you want to disagree, and we can banter about this, because I really, I really want to get your thoughts on this. So given that there is just a tremendous shortage of, of people that are qualified in these various trades versus the the whole, let me go to college, just because that’s the thing to do. And now I can’t find a job. Or it’s, it’s harder for me to get a job because I have a degree because I’m competing with all these other people. Whereas I could just as easily go to trade school, finish trade school in the next day, you know, walk straight walk straight into a job, and what do you see that point like? Like, how do you see that playing out for people? Like, is there is there a path that you think makes more sense? Or is there a way to kind of blend the two like, what, what’s your thoughts on that?
Chaunte Hall 13:50
I obviously would go for always blending the two and thank you that was that was beautifully put. Because, you know, again, we want to ensure relevancy, and Long gone are the days where the high school diploma, you know, amounts to anything or or the Associate’s degree. And so you’re looking at that even even if you go and you you become you get that HVAC or that plumbing, or, you know, you’re looking at the trades, whether I mean car maintenance, all these positions that are available right now. cybersecurity, you can take any, any one of these industries, what is going to set you apart as a leader. And so what are your long term goals and strategies and what is needed? So, to that, to that maybe possibly younger, you know, kid getting out of high school, I would say absolutely look at the trades or if we’re looking at our military population saying, Okay, what are you looking to do? Case in point I had a transitioning service manager of a very large in military installation the other day, tell me Well, John pays the troops just aren’t interested in these jobs. And we want to focus on the jobs that that the soldiers want. And I said, point blank, I don’t care what jobs the soldiers want, I care what jobs are out there, I care what jobs are available, because if a service member cannot exit the military and successfully reintegrate with a career path ahead of them forward thinking, already writing out the narrative, and they’re not successful, then what happens to their resiliency, what happens to their overall health? You see, the civilian community is looking at us as a military right now going, Yeah, we want to hire from your pool of people, if I as a single mother, with two small children, have someone coming to fix my AC. And I realized that they they kind of might, their picture might look crazy, I’m not sure if I’m going to feel comfortable with that person coming to my home. But then I see in their bio, that they were in the military, I might feel a little bit more comfortable and competent. And I realized that that’s one of my brothers or sisters who served in the military. So I think there’s a lot of value add and that alone, but also in the leadership principle, and that we’re looking for leaders to continue serving within the communities. And so leveraging both of those, so you, you get that HVAC, you get that plumbing, you you’re working the next day, possibly making up to six figures, I mean, it’s extremely good if you, you add a secret security clearance to that. And then by the way, maybe you don’t want to work as many hours as it’s going to take to make that six figures. So you couple that with using your GI bill or voc rehab, and you get that degree on the side. It’s It’s beautiful to marry the two because then you realize, you know what, I’m going to end up taking over this business or buying this business or starting my own business. And now you understand all aspects of the trade. And again, it’s an industry that’s not going away, right? So to me, absolutely beneficial to look at it and and I actually have this happening on a on a military installation here soon, we’re going to be talking about all industry perspective, and how to have career pathways of progression, just like we do in the military.
Aaron Spatz 17:30
Share with us a little bit of your story, then your past to your different degrees that that you’ve worked towards. And then you shared with us a little bit about the about your gym venture, but walk us through the story of how you’ve gotten to where you are today.
Chaunte Hall 17:47
Yeah, so. So, you know, full transparency, I was going to get the Bachelor’s in kinesiology, you know, until my father said bachelor’s of business. And he really helped pave the way for, for my success when it came to my education, or else I probably would have gone with the popularity contest at the beginning and doing what everyone else was doing. Well, this degree looks fun, versus what do we foresee in the future as relevant and what’s needed. And so, and today, I’m thankful to say that my father is still doing this, for for our veteran population. He’s the director of Veteran Affairs for the city of Houston. And that’s the second largest veteran population in our country. So absolutely amazing now that he’s still giving back to others, or I would not be where I am. So I went from, like I said, opening my gym to realizing that I was not, that was not my full passion. And so for me, when people say, follow your passion, I kind of reassess and look at it that in the military, we wear so many hats. And and it’s important to understand that all of those hats become a part of us. And so to not negate one of those things, you know, we volunteer voluntold within our local community, how do we continue to give back once we switched uniforms. And so I was always looking for ways to volunteer. I was in San Antonio at the time and to give back and I stumbled upon a very large volunteer opportunity that led me into the nonprofit world, which then led me to being a director at the YMCA, starting a master’s degree in an MPA with an emphasis in government and policy. And that was because of my newfound passion or for the nonprofit sector, coupled with the fact that the state of Texas in 2011 had dumped millions into mental health. And my family was kind of coming together saying, you know, how do we go from being so strong and uniform to then just just failing at reintegration not being able to be successfull losing all hope losing agency, you know, again, there’s agency and pathway and your agency as your resiliency, your level of hope, the reason why you want to pursue a goal. And when we get out of the military, if we don’t foresee that pathway that we’re used to seeing, we can easily give up hope and a level of pursuance, because we don’t know what to pursue, but so good. And that kind of led my family and I sitting around, you know, a bonfire talking about how could we reach further upstream into the military? How could we, the poor at a higher level, to where we were not failing at transition? Because full transparency, we fail at transition at that reintegration. We’re failing at recruitment and retention all in the same, you can’t, you can’t negate one of those. And so we looked at starting a nonprofit, my father to this day would would tease me and say that he wasn’t sure if this was just a millennial thing. And kind of where was I gonna take it? And how long would it stick? Being that the gym didn’t last very long. And I think this is all part of, of our learning ability and our learning curve, and kind of how we are within the military culture of if you’re listening to Oh, follow your heart, follow your passion follow without having data, facts and statistics to back it, then you’re missing a major component. And, you know, no one told me when I was opening a gym that I would be answering to every single person who walks through that door. Yeah, there’s so many things that no one told me. It’s not like telling your troops that, hey, we’re all going to do PT. Right. Now, it takes coaching in corporate corrosion, it’s, it’s just interesting to kind of see what people think a business is going to be, and then what ends up not being. But so when we, when we decided to start this nonprofit, we looked at what the DoD was, was already teaching. And now today, you know, that Centurion military alliance, multidisciplinary curriculum, as viewed as a force multiplier from the Department of Defense, and help in assisting the transition assistance program for our military. And we got there, because our curriculum is a multidisciplinary curriculum. So it’s constantly evolving with the sight of societal trends in the global, you know, when you’re looking at from an analytic perspective of, again, that data as a trend analysis of what’s going on right now? And how do we ensure that we are put on those pathways, and since you’re in military alliances, teaches that through education, finance and vocation, one should find their positionality. In the military, we talked about being prepared. And so to explain it, and you know, I’m preparing to be a doctor, I am not one yet. And so my position right now, my education in PA was an emphasis and government policy, Human Resource Management certificate. I’m an executive coach, I made sure I had all these things, in order to be relevant for Centurion military alliance. So my education absolutely speaks to my vocation. Now while working for a nonprofit, will that allow me to be financially stable, and which lends to financial literacy? And so there within lies the question, and where those pillars intersect is where you find your positionality. Now, those pillars are constantly moving, constantly shifting, you know, whether it’s from finances to education, pursuing the doctors pursuing a technical pursuing a trade pursuing, you know, that next certification, these pillars are constantly evolving, and so self awareness is key. And in the military, when one of these pillars are rocked, we are still okay with our foundation of holistic health, well being and resiliency, because we’re surrounded by a military family. Now, when you get out, all three of those pillars are rocked. Your education no longer speaks necessarily to your vocation. Think about all this dusty old war college degrees, military leadership, right? You go with job descriptions today, you’re not finding military leadership on these job descriptions. That’s true. So again, the military says, Be prepared. We say yes, be prepared, but understand your positionality and be able to articulate that level of experience to me on a daily basis. Tell me who you are. And then and then let’s talk about where you want to be. And so with with what’s internal military alliances enable to create. And now what my doctoral research is speaking to, is that through understanding each of those pillars, and assessing one’s level of hope within each pillar, that that’s how we’re going to even combat suicide. Yeah.
Aaron Spatz 25:18
Yeah, that’s a, that’s a real problem too. And I and I can’t help but suspect I don’t have hard data sitting in front of me. But I can’t help but suspect that some of that is due to just a lack of general vision and purpose. And before we go on, can you please remind, so I’m following those three pillars? reminded those Oregon, so I have education experience. What else?
Chaunte Hall 25:46
Yeah, so So centering military alliances, three pillars are educational attainment, financial literacy, and vocational proficiency. Got it. With the foundation, the foundation of the pillars is holistic health, wellbeing, and resiliency.
Aaron Spatz 26:05
Got it? Okay. I absolutely love that. And I’ve never heard it articulated in that way. And so,
Chaunte Hall 26:14
yeah, so the great thing is, is my father and I actually co authored this curriculum together. So when he finished his PhD, his doctoral research was on the mentoring and stewardship of these pillars, and the critical impact it makes on recruitment, retention and reintegration. And so that’s why now, since you’re in military alliance, teaches at the sergeant majors Academy, or the chief leadership course, or the garrison commanders course, you know, we’re actually a part of professional military education.
Aaron Spatz 26:47
Oh, that’s cool. That’s really cool. Shifting gears, just ever so slightly, would you mind sharing with us a story just about a very pivotal moment, your career, and it may have been a tragedy or just a just a severe difficulty or challenge? And how did you bounce back or power yourself through that? Like, what did that look like for you?
Chaunte Hall 27:12
Yeah, that’s, that’s a very deep question. Yeah. You know, in full transparency, about about two years ago now. Well, I’ve been I’ve been divorced for a little over a year. But my ex is going through a lot and had been battling PTSD. And I was in not the military spouse, but the caregiver role. And he’s still working a full time job, you know. So it’s one of those things where no one would have known that he suffered through PTSD and suicidal ideation and in distress it and the impact that it had on on me and my family. And so my family was trying to help in the midst of all of this, and my father had battled cancer. And so here I am, a mom with two young children, you know, with a husband going through all of this a father that had gone through chemo and radiation, and still trying to maintain and help our military populace, because it is the passion that drives me. And I will tell you that anything negative in my life that I have been through, I get through it by helping someone else. And and I’ve always viewed that, when my ex chose to walk away and leave my family. You know, I was blessed that my father was able to step in, and that my children carry his last name. And he’s a he’s a man of strength that was there. And I look at that, and I say, you know, when people will Shantay Why did this happen to you? Why why did something so bad? And then we hear that a lot we hear why do bad things happen to good people? Well, because none of us are good, inherently right? We, we all we all have something that is bad. We’ve all thought bad thoughts. And I do that tongue in cheek, but I truly believe that. But to this has allowed me now as as I go out, and I help and support other caregivers, as I teach military spouses, holistic health, well being and resiliency and the ability and the critical need to be self aware to have a backup plan to know who you are. Because if you would have asked me a couple years ago, was this going to happen to you Shantay I would have never have foreseen it. And and I think that I would rather these that some of the negative things happen to me, because I had a support structure in place. Yeah, and not just that support structure. But I have that ability since I was a child that if something bad is happening, there’s a story behind it. God is going to use that for good. He has a purpose. Absolutely. And, and I think when you look at our military culture Paran, we volunteer, and I love that about the military. It’s we’re always voluntold to do something. And I firmly believe in my heart that that is our ability to give back that that keeps us moving forward. You know, sometimes, I love to run five K’s, you know, I’m a crossfit coach, and a yoga instructor and I love to run for a couple of years in Houston, I was number one in all these races, and I was on this creek, well, all of a sudden, my children wanted to start running with me, they no longer wanted to be in the stroller, they wanted to get out and run, maybe get back in, get out and run. And it dawned on me for the first time that sometimes, you know, you have to take a step back in order to launch someone else forward. And, and that’s the beauty in leadership. That’s the beauty and encouraging future generation. And it’s something now that through the midst of the ugly, the tears, the pain, you see the beauty in the next generation, you see the beauty and lifting up someone else, because you have a story that’s impactful in that resignate.
Aaron Spatz 31:26
That’s awesome. That makes that makes total sense. And thank you so much for, for sharing that. And I just can’t help but just, I’m trying to put myself in your shoes. When you’re, you’re in the middle of just something really, you know, just not fun. And then you’re you’re you’re taking all that and you’re in you’re just working on how do I impact other people positively? And how do I basically give them what it is that I need? And, and just continue to just kind of pour yourself out to people.
Chaunte Hall 32:06
I mean, that year, too. And I look back on the year with Western trained military alliances. It was impactful. It was it was amazing that, you know, I witnessed someone walk away my children watched someone drive away, physically watched. And then three days later, I was on a plane headed to a CMA workshop. Oh, now, I share that. And I have not shared that yet. No, on this kind of platform. But I share it with intent. Because, again, we don’t have I’ll never forget my son came up to me. And because of course, as a mother, it’s devastating your children witness something that you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy. Yeah. And my son came to me and he was six years old. And I had, you know, been crying and very upset. My son said this to me. He said, Mommy, can you please get up? And can you get ready, like you do for CMA. And that impacted me on probably the best advice them because some more tears. But the best advice I ever could have received came out of the mouth of my baby boy. Wow. You know, he was just saying Mommy, get up. You help people at CMA you help the soldiers. Get up and help me. Wow.
Aaron Spatz 33:34
Yeah, it’s amazing. The things that our kids will say, and it’ll just be so amazingly honest. And there’s like there’s no jab or punch. Being cloaked in the statement is just straight from their heart. And it’s amazing how those might because I’ve I’ve many of those moments to where just they’ll say something in it. You’ve never heard it said so plainly. And it just it just pierces you.
Chaunte Hall 34:04
Does it does it and that’s why you know, we we can’t negate the future generation and so my message to a lot of those that whether I’m speaking on PTSD or MSP or to the caregivers is, you know, remember why you raised your right hand to serve. Remember why you chose to be a spouse. Remember the feeling that you had of cried that was instilled in you from serving and doing something that was bigger than yourself? And now look at the future and and then tell me that you can’t stand strong enough and long enough to be able to encourage and support them.
Aaron Spatz 34:49
That’s quite a statement. That’s quite a statement. Well, that I feel like he’s, you may have already kind of answered this question but loved answered anyway. or ask you anyway. It to those veterans out there and we talked about this, I believe it was offline, but to those veterans that are struggling with a little bit of their purpose, and just understanding where it is that they need to be headed. What advice would you give them in terms of just getting themselves on track and with a renewed vigor and purpose?
Chaunte Hall 35:31
So, you know, depends on which stage of the transition that they’re facing. But number one, I would say that next job, you might just need a job. You might just you might be through your finances. And so that self assessment is key with what is it that that what jobs are out there, not even what you want to do, but start researching job descriptions, actually see what positions are available, because those that those are the facts. And so don’t read too much into the weeds, on people’s opinions on LinkedIn. Get off of the opinion train, if you don’t have an edge, if you don’t have a degree, your certification, licensure, any kind of vocation that you can take in to actually get employment, then then save whatever book that it was that you’re reading, you know, whether it’s, you know, assignments, the knack, or what color’s your parachute, or any of that, take a break, take a breather, make sure that you have that degree that certification license are needed for a position, and then constantly read kind of self assess. And if you’re walking into a position that you just need a job because of finances, and you’re not happy about that, I would tell that individual to find something to volunteer for, I would tell that individual to possibly go home and love on your family a little bit more, and maybe they need your time. It’s okay to have to take a job for a while to get used to the civilian sector, and then make sure that you are successful in that reintegration process. And lastly, you know, finding your sense of purpose to me comes with finding those volunteer opportunities or spending time with family. But I would definitely say, don’t lose sight of who you were in the military, don’t lose sight of the military culture, don’t lose, you know, obviously, I’m going to say don’t lose your fitness level. Because I believe, I believe in in PT, because I think, I think that’s why the civilian sector likes us, you know, while we’re wearing the uniform, we look good, we feel good. We’re, you know, we’re servant leaders, we’re volunteering, we’re we’re strong advocates, we’re voices, we’re lifelong learners, all these great attributes that we have. Now just find a way to plug that into the civilian sector. And it might take time, it’s a humbling process. It’s beyond humbling. Rank does not matter, I deal with the most senior leaders who are walking into possibly entry level positions, because they’re trying to get their feet in the door. And just remain, remain humble, yet strong, and know that someone is always watching you. And so that mentoring and stewarding piece is a huge aspect. Because whether it’s that you know that future generation that’s looking at you, your children are looking at you, your friends, possibly friends that are still in the military and looking at whether you’re going to be successful or not. But somebody is always watching your moves, and especially in the day of social media. So just think about for a moment, you know, sometimes take the focus off of you, and think about how you can successfully impact the culture. And if you raise your right hand to serve, how do you continue serving within your local community?
Aaron Spatz 39:13
That’s sage words of wisdom. I love that. Thank you so much. Yeah, well, Shantay I just want to thank you, once again, for spending some time with me and sharing some of your experience. I thank you just for just being incredibly open. And it’s my hope. It’s my prayer that your story and the stories of others that they’re able to really connect with people, wherever they may find themselves. They may have been transitioned to one or two years, they may have been out for 20 plus years. But the point is that we’re we’re not alone. We have this amazing, huge community, this big network, and I get the sense that it just it really just takes a little bit of effort. to plug in, to reach out for help and in to reach out to some great nonprofits and different different organizations. And thank you for the work that you’re doing through Centurion, military alliance and all the different projects that you’re working on.
Chaunte Hall 40:17
Oh, thank you. And that’s an that’s a great way to, to end here and to sign off is don’t do anything alone. You’re You’re not alone. You haven’t gotten to where you gotten by yourself. There’s always someone left right in front behind. And just remember that don’t do it alone. So thank you, Erin. That’s great advice.
Aaron Spatz 40:43
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